February 2001 Weekly Firesides

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group

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You know, those of you who don't catch our 2nd Thursday of the month where we share Letters, Songs and Poems really miss a treat, so this week I thought I'd include one of the many Civil War Songs we have in the "Fireside."

The Yankee lads and iron clads
Are welcome now to try us;
With shot and shell we'll greet them well,
Before they shall go by us.
With our banner floating o'er us,
Let the foe but come before us;
Every gun will swell the chorus---
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb.
We all were tars before the war,
And know a thing or two;
Our leader is our sort of man,
And we're a jolly crew.
While a man lives to defend her,
The "Missouri" still will send her
Answer to the word "surrender:"
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb.

For Southern girls and Southern rights
"Missouri" breasts the wave;
Her noble name will yet give fame
To Carter and Musgrave.
Always ready for the trial----
When the Yankee pirates come,
They will soon find out the style
Of our bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb.

Shreveport, LA., March 29, 1864,shared with us from the family collection of Deanne Holms ...........enjoy!

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Did you Know...........................

Snow Beri sent me a great piece of materal which just has to be shared here....


When Exactly Did the Civil War End?

9 April 1865 - Gen. R.E. Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia at Appomattox Courthouse, VA

26 April 1865 - Gen. J.E. Johnston surrendered the Army of Tennessee et al. at Durham, N.C.

4 May 1865 - Gen. Richard Taylor surrendered Dept. of Alabama, Mississippi, and Eastern Louisiana at Citronelle, AL

13 May 1865 - engagement at Palmito Ranch, near Brownsville, TX, often taken to be the last engagement of the war

2 June 1865 -Gen. E.K. Smith surrendered the Trans-Mississippi Department at Galveston, TX (the surrender had been agreed to by Smith's representative, Lt Gen S.B. Buckner, in New Orleans on 26 May)

23 June 1865 - Brig. Gen. Stand Watie's troops in the Indian Territory surrendered at Doaksville. Watie was the last Confederate general to surrender his troops.

13 June 1865 - President Johnson proclaimed the insurrection in Tennessee at an end.

4 Nov 1865 - The raider CSS Shenandoah surrendered in Liverpool to British authorities. For several months after the surrender of ground forces, this last of the CSA's naval vessels had been burning USA shipping, with her captain, James I. Waddell, still thinking the war was in progress. Her last fight was against a whaling fleet in the Bering Sea on 28 Jun 1865. After this, the vessel was the object of a worldwide search. On August 2, Waddell had contact with a British ship, whose captain informed him that the CSA was no more. With this in mind, he put guns below decks and sailed to England, where the ship was surrendered to the British Admiralty. Upon the boarding of the vessel by British authorities, the last sovereign Confederate flag was furled.

2 Apr 1866 - Pres. Johnson proclaimed the insurrection ended in all the former Confederate States except Texas. This was his recognition of the legitimacy of the governments formed under his Reconstruction proclamation.

20 Aug 1866 - Pres. Johnson proclaimed that Texas had complied with the conditions of his Reconstruction proclamation and declared the insurrection in Texas at an end.

And there you have it.................

Did you Know...........................

Freedom, surprisingly, was not all joy for the Southern blacks who had been slaves. They were used to being slaves, according to a black man raised on a Virginia plantation and called "Booker" in the slavery days.

One of the first things many newly freed blacks wanted to do , quickly, was to take on a new name -- any name other than the master's. "In some way," wrote Booker later, "a feeling got among the coloured people that it was far from proper for them to bear the surname of their former owners, and a great many of them took other surnames."

Only a boy at the time, Booker recalled the very moment that freedom was announced to the slaves at his plantation in Franklin County, Virginia, where his mother was the cook and where their cabin (he slept there on rags on the floor) was the plantation kitchen. His father was unknown but was thought to be a white man from a neighboring plantation who came visiting once in a while. His stepfather, in fact, hadn't been seen for a while, because he had run away and found sanctuary in West Virginia, where he had a job in the salt mines outside Charleston.

The morning that young Booker and his fellow slaves heard about their freedom, they were told to gather at the "big house."

"All of our master's family were either standing or seated on the veranda of the house, where they could see what was to take place and hear what was said. There was a feeling of deep interest, or perhaps sadness, on their faces, but not bitterness. A stranger, probably a Union officer, "made a little speech and then read a rather long paper -- the Emancipation Proclamation, I think." Next, "we were told that we were all free, and could go when and where we pleased."

The reaction among the former slaves at first was excitement, joy, and more, which was to be expected. Young Booker's mother leaned down and kissed her children "while tears of joy ran down her cheeks." Among the other newly freed slaves, "for some minutes there was great rejoicing and thanksgiving, and wild scenes of ecstacy." In this case there was "no bitterness," and in fact "there was pity among the slaves for their former owners."

Booker noted that the "wild rejoicing on the part of the emancipated coloured people lasted but a brief period, for I noticed that by the time they returned to their cabins there was a change in their feelings."

What had happened? "The great responsibility of being free, of having charge of themselves, of having to think and plan for themselves and their children, seemed to take possession of them .... In a few hours the great questions with which the Anglo-Saxon race had been grappling for centuries had been thrown upon these people to be solved. These were the questions of a home, a living, the rearing of children, education, citizenship, and the establishment and support of churches." Remarkably, in just a few hours "the wild rejoicing ceased," replaced in the slave quarters by "a feeling of deep gloom."

Many of them realized that being free was a serious thing. The older people, in particular, found it frightening. After all, "their best days were gone." They had spent their lifetime as slaves. Where would they go? What would they do?

"Besides, deep down in their hearts there was a strange and peculiar attachment to 'Old Marster' and 'Old Missus,' and to their children, which they found it hard to think of breaking off." Was it any wonder then, that "gradulally, one by one, stealthily at first, the older slaves began to wander from the slave quarters back to the 'big house' to have a whispered conversation with their former owners as to the future?"

Young Booker and his family did not stay around very long. He would soon take steps to remedy the fact he had only one name to his name!

First, though, his mother and her children had to journey to West Virginia to join Booker's stepfather. They left their Virginia home and crossed over mountains, streams, and valleys on foot; the trip took several weeks. One day in the future Booker

would reverse the trek -- five hundred miles on foot -- to attend school and work as a janitor at Virginia's Hampton Institute. Then, after other important stops on the way, he would go on to operate Tuskegee Institute in Alabama as its widely esteemed president and become a towering leader among American blacks.

First, though, before any of these things could come to pass, he had to attend elementary school classes in West Virginia, then settle the issue of his name. At school, "I noticed that all of the children had at least two names and some of them indulged in what seemed to me the extravagance of having three."

The youngster from Virginia was ready the first time the schoolmaster called the roll and asked for his full name. "I calmly told him 'Booker Washington' as if I had been called by that name all my life; and by that name I have since been known."

Well, not quite -- for later in life the black educator found out his mother had actually given him another name soon after he was born in 1858 or 1859: Taliaferro. And so, as he recounted in his autobiography, he became Booker T. Washington finally and forever more......

And there you have it...............................


This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail :D

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Weekly Web Sites we've received


Graves for Civil War Buffs

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From: Pinkpj622

The Lutheran All Faiths Cemetery - Queens County, New York http://www.interment.net/data/us/ny/queens/lutheran_all.htm

Evergreen Cemetery - Kings County, New York

Long Island National Cemetery - Suffolk County, New York http://www.interment.net/data/us/ny/kings/evergreens_cemetery.htm


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Originated by LCFlu@aol.com and passed on by SusiCP:


Is anyone related to Hugh Boon born in Washington county, PA in 1834? I am doing a page about the 1st WV Cavalry (http://rootsweb.com/~wvwags/1wvc/1wvc\frm.htm), gradually adding information about each soldier in this regiment. I am interested in a genealogy of Hugh Boon, photos, etc. He received the Medal of Honor and I have that information.


{{Linda}} Hope spreading the request helps. We'll see if this strikes a chord in our membership..... Thanks Susi for passing it on.

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I love reading these weekly articles. Unfortunately, my schedule is such that I can no longer join, so I join thru the articles.

I am wondering if you can help me identify an article that is owned by a friend? It is a walking stick in a dark wood, a snake carved along its length with a frog (as if the snake is chasing the frog), the words 'Alatoon GA 1864' and other decorations. It was found in a former boarding house in Russelville, KY. I have some pictures I can send you if you'd like. We'd like to know how to research it if not who it belonged to.

Thanks for any help you can give us.

- Susan

{{Susan}} I got your pictures and for any of you that would like to take a crack at trying to identify these send me an email and I'll send you the copies for review. I wanted to add this week that I frequently watch "The Antique Road Show" as I'm sure many of you do and there was a recent instance where a woman brought in a "Cane" that was made and inscribed by a Black Soldier from the Civil War in one of the Northern Regiments. The carved inscription had his name, date, regiment and his emotional outpouring at being a free man finally. The antique expert noted that these types of Civil War Memorabilia were the rarest of all because they were the personal property of veterans and were prized far above the uniforms and military hardware such as firearms, muskets, etc.

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CrashHup was talking with me Thursday night and brought up a question about a Civil War Vet ancestor who had died of a gunshot wound at Fort Bayard, New Mexico in Oct 1866. His major question was "Where is Ft. Bayard?"

The only Ft. Bayard I've unearthed thus far is the Ft. Bayard in Washington DC used during the Civil War at the currently location of River Road and Western Ave, NW. 1866 is still close enough to the conclusion of the Civil War that it may have been a related incident rather than part of the Indian activity going on as well. He was part of the 2nd US Cavalry.

Any help in this question would be greatly appreciated.

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From Nadine1944:

In my Rand McNally Road Atlas, I found a city named Bayard in Grant County, New Mexico. It's in the southwestern part of the state, near Silver City. While verifying the county in my handy dandy USPS zip code book, I found not only Bayard in Grant County, but also Ft. Bayard in the same county. They have different zip codes, but are in the same vicinity. Writing the local library and/or chamber of commerce might get a response about the area. There is a historical society (Southwestern New Mexico Historical Society) in Silver City that also might help with research...finding his ancestor's grave site...or at least a likely cemetery. Good luck! And don't forget the usefulness of atlases and zip code books! oops...and more...

Just checked my 1906 Hammonds Atlas Of The World. It shows Fort Bayard a little northwest of Silver City. Bayard Station (now the city of Bayard) is south of Fort Bayard, with a city named Central in between the two. Squinting further at the page, I see Fort Bayard Military Reservation north of Fort Bayard. (I just love maps!) If I can help further, let me know.


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From: ZoomUp

Since last evening I have made several attempts to get an answer for your about a 2nd Cavlary Regiment and a Fort Bayard, NM, in the 1870s. Unfortunately, I seem to have "struck out".

Today I exchanged several E-mails with a Harry Boudreau, who lives near Plano (Dallas area) TX, is the Division Historian for the 1st Cavalry Division and is the person who has personally researched and written all of the history that can be found at the unit links at 1st Cavalry Division - Master Internet Link (http://www.metronet.com/~harryb/). Harry is in his late 70s/early 80s, is a remarkable person and I know him rather well now. In fact, I was with him just last Friday and Saturday at Fort Hood for some meetings of the 1st Cavalry Division Association.

In our exchange of E-mails of today, Harry kept reminding me that the present 5th Cavalry (which no longer exists as a distinct Regiment but two Battalions have retained the 5th Cavalry designation, however, one is in the 1st Brigade and the other is in the 2nd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division) when it was originally organized in 1855 in Louisville KY was designated as the 2nd Cavalry. Upon its organization it was immediately sent to MO for training, then to Fort Belknap TX (northwest of Fort Worth area) and other Forts of the area. Its principal missions were to keep the mail routes open and to protect the settlers from the maurading Indians. While there, the 2nd Cavalry engaged in numerous skirmishes with the Comanche, Kiowa and other bands of Indians that roamed that area of Texas.

Now I quote from one of Harry's E-mails of today: "In July l857, Lt. John Bell Hood lead his company of the 2nd Cavalry on a dramatic foray in Texas. Spotting a band of Indian Warriors, Hood moved ahead to parley, stopping nearly 30 yards from five Indians who were holding a white flag of truce. At this point, the Indians dropped their flag of truce and set fire to rubbish which they had previously collected to provide a smoke screen. Thirty Indians, hiding within 10 paces of the troops, began an attack on their flank with arrows and firearms. The troopers charged and a hand to hand battle ensued. Outnumbered two to one, the troopers withdrew, covering their retreat with revolver fire. This was one of at least forty fire fights in which the 2nd Cavalry was involved while in Texas. Wounded in this action, Lt. Hood recovered and later went on to join his old 2nd Cavalry Commander, Lt. Col. Robert E. Lee, rising in rank to become a Confederate General, commanding the Texas Brigade in the Civil War.

(And I continue to quote): "Following the issuance of the Proclamation of Insurrection on 15 April and the order to blockade all Southern Ports on 19 April 1861, an official state of war existed between the North and South. The outbreak of the Civil War added an ironic, but important, footnote in the history of the U.S. Cavalry. Jefferson Davis, a former Cavalry officer of the U.S. Regiment of Dragoons, would become President of the Confederacy and four of the forty officers assigned to the 2nd Cavalry Regiment eventually became four star generals. The most well known, Lt. Col. Robert E. Lee, rose to the position of commander of the entire Confederate Army."

(Still continuing): "On 03 August 1861, the First Regiment of Dragoons, under the command of Colonel Benjamin L. Beall, was redesignated as the First Cavalry Regiment. Concurrently the 2nd Cavalry Regiment, redesignated as the 5th Cavalry Regiment, rode out of Texas to become part of the Union's forces, the Army of the Potomac. The regiments fought in the battles of Gaines Mill, Fairfax Courthouse, Falling Waters, Martinsburg, Bull Run, Yorktown, Williamsburg, Charlotteville, Wilderness, Shenandoah and others." (End of quoting.)

Jim, following the Civil War the 5th Cavalry (originally designated as the 2nd Cavalry) returned to the West, operating in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Utah and a few other states, aways fighting the Indians. One exception, however: the 5th Cavalry was not involved in WW I because it was then stationed along the U.S./Mexico border in Texas, New Mexico and Arizona fighting Pancho Villa and his and other Mexican bands, large and small.

Harry Boudreau apparently has no records of a 2nd Cavalry either being formed or the number being assigned as a redesignation of some other Cavalry unit after 1861. So I suspect that that 2nd Cavalry you were asking about last night may well have been the 5th Cavalry, although it could have been the 8th Cavalry, which was organized in 1866 in California and served in the 1870s in a number of the western states, including New Mexico. It is unlikely that it could have been the 7th Cavalry (Custer's Regiment), because the 7th was active more in the central and what we now refer to as the midwestern part of the country. You may wish to read these histories at 1st Cavalry Division - Master Internet Link (http://www.metronet.com/~/harryb/)and the link under any of the 7th and 8th Cav units shown, then the link "Early Missions".

I wish I could have located the 2nd Cavalry at a Fort Bayard NM in the 1870s for you, but what I have shown above is all that I have. Maybe next time and a different Cavalry unit. See you Thursday.

Gordon L. Jennings
Houston TX

{{{Gordon}}} You're resources are awesome and you're ongoing expertise are greatly adored :-) CrashHup this info is certainly worth pursuing... Could be why you're having such a hard time resolving your clues on the 2nd US Cav.... Good Luck!!

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From: QNavyWife


I have a major need of some help of the faithful, especially those who may know something about Confederate soldiers (I am a Yankee girl!!!!) or have access to Confederate records. I am looking for info on a Gallette Madison Harlow, born in Barnett's Ford (this may be Barnetta Ford.....not sure if we have a typo on the info as you'll see momentarily!) on Feb. 4, 1847 and died in Binghamton, NY on December 5, 1885. On his stone it states that he served in the late war under Gen. R. E. Lee. He is buried at the Lenox Rural Cemetery, just outside of Canastota, NY. Also buried with him are his wife Cornelia Northrup Harlow and his brother George Lewis Harlow. The listing I have the info from says that George was born in Barnetta Ford, Orange Co., VA. I am not sure which is correct at this point and haven't had a chance to look for either on a map of VA. I need to find out more about Gallette. I find it strange that a Confederate soldier is buried so far north (for those who don't know where Canastota is, we are about 20 miles east of Syracuse, on the Thruway). Now, Binghamton isn't too far from Elmira, so he may have been a prisoner at Elmira Prison and stayed in the North after the war.....his brother somehow ended up here too.....maybe their father also served and died, and George ended up with his brother.... Don't know at this point. The reason I am hunting for this man and anything at all that I can find, is that my CW Round Table is interested in this and also, I'd like to find someone who is related to this man....his family may not actually know where he is...at least his southern relatives. We may be able to get some type of marker put up honoring him also. So, any help anyone might be able to give would be gratefully appreciated!


{{{Robin}}} - now this sounds like an interesting puzzle.... We'll see what feedback we get..... Put on your thinking caps gang and let's see what we can come up with...

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From: Phreyor

Friends & Gang: Love your weekly fireside! But I need your scholarly help again. I have discovered that my one Civil War era relative was not in just one unit but two! After he was wounded, he was sent to Saint Louis Missouri to be in the VRC there. But apparently he joined another unit and went back out. Does anyone know anything about the 2nd S.M. Regiment-Cav. Vols.? They were out of Alexandria Missouri, under a Captain Robbins. My relative-John Scheinbraker (Private), joined them March 4th, 1862. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! RFS.

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From: IllinoisCW

For Phreyer -

My guess is that the unit would be the 2nd State Militia - Cavalry. The state of Missouri - CSA and USA - had more military units then a junk yard dog has fleas.

{{{Frank}}} Thanks for the tip and I'm still chucklin' over the humor of your unassailable facts.... Heh Heh Phreyer - here's a good clue to add to the "hunt list"....


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From: Pinkpj622

Dear HOST GFS Cindy:

Thank you for your help the other night. My grandson's teacher could not find anything on the name assigned to him so she assigned him a different person to look up. With the help of the search engine goggle that you told me about he did fine. If you know of other search engines and would be willing to share I would be most appreciative.


{{{Eleanor}}} thanks for the kind note to Cindy. "Cindy", bless your heart.... We love ya..


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