December 1999 Weekly Fireside

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 5 December 1999

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Mission Statement : To serve all genealogists by providing an enjoyable online environment with as many helpful and reliable resources as possible.
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What a perfect evening to work on the newsletter.  It's snowing outside and the wind is blowing and I'm in my cubby-hole playing my Christmas music and just smiling  --Sigh-- Life can be simple when you allow it.  I was remembering the story from last Thursday and thinking to myself that I can never forget what happened there.  Oh my!  What a great turnout Thursday night..  We had a great tale about Grant and Lee in 1864.  It was a sobering time from the Wilderness to Petersburg.  Thanks for coming out and sitting by the fireside with us.  Tom's (GFS TEG) cider was incredible  Heh heh!

The Music:  Well, here it is December!!!!  Can you believe it??   As promised, I've done a little gathering of titles and here are some great Christmas CDs for you.  I just have to talk abut them a little,  'cause I wouldn't list anything here  that I haven't listened to. :)  Here we go:

    1.  The first one is a re-release of the Christmas Carols of Alfred S. Burt which was originally released as "The Christmas Mood".  This release is called "This is Christmas" which is a complete collection of the Alfred S. Burt Carols done by the Voices of Jimmy Joyce.  Burt is probably the only recognized later day "master" of Christmas Carols not written in the 18th and 19th centuries.  You will certainly recognize "Some Children See Him" and "Caroling Caroling".  Alfred was a slender ministers son, who was a young jazz trumpeter who composed Christmas carols.  He wasn't with us long as he died at the age of thirty-three.  This CD is a quiet and traditional collection of Christmas Carols.

    2.  Two CDs that are different, but just great with their accurate depiction of the Christmas music of their time is "The Bells of Dublin" by The Chieftans and "Thys Yool" a Medieval Christmas in the 16th Century by the Martin Best Ensemble.

    3.  Another style of choral for you are these 5 CDs.  "The Many Moods of Christmas" by Robert Shaw and the Atlanta Symphonia Orchestra and Chorus, "The Songs of Angels" by Robert Shaw and the Robert Shaw Chamber Singers, "The Little Drummer Boy" by the Harry Simeone Chorale, "Sing We Christmas" by Chanticleer, and finally "In Beak Mid-Winter", featuring 5 singing groups, Kings College Choir, Clare College Choir, The Bach Choir, The Purcell Singers and the Royal Choral Society.  I can't vote on any of these five because I'm and avid lover of all these performing groups.

    4.  For those of you that style of Celtic music but aren't purists, the Windham Hill Collection has released three CDs called Celtic Christmas I, II, III.

    5.  Finally some Easy Listening CDs.  An awesome CD called "The Gift" by one of my favorite pianists Jim Brickman, "Miracles" by Kenny G, and "Remembering Christmas" by David Benoit.

    6.  And because I live in the shadow of "Purple Mountains Majesty" - Pikes Peak and call Colorado my home, I have to list John Denver's "Rocky Mountain Christmas"...

These give you a pretty wide range of artist and styles to try or put on your old Perry Como, Tennessee Ernie Ford, Boston POPs, "Bev" Shay and turn them on and curl up by the tree with a fire in the fireplace and take time for the music..  It's good for the heart..  Heh Heh

To all of you from All of us, Merry Listening for Christmas :-)  GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFH Amy...

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Now next Thursday Night is "Letters, Songs and Poems of the Civil War"  Our very special monthly event, please join us!!  Don't forget to send us any letters, songs or poems of the Civil War, you want to share with the room and we'll certainly oblige your...  Send to GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFH Amy or GFS TEG

We'll keep the light on for you *<>*

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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE REALLY WELCOME YOU TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY.. 

For you information, every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put on the newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a "Thank You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We do this to give you an opportunity to jump right in with us. If you desire NOT to receive the newsletter, then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will quickly remove your screen name from distribution. We certainly don't want to clog your mailbox with unwanted material. Also many of you pass on the newsletter to others that don't subscribe to AOL. We really want to thank you for spreading the word. I would also like to let you know that we would be happy to add them to our list if they have email of any sort. We distribute everywhere to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a requirement although we'd love to see you in the Chat Room :D 

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A Question to ALL Readers from the Editor:  You'll note that the "Weekly Fireside" has gotten a bit "prettier"!  Well, this is accomplished by doing this in html format, so I can center the text on occassion, use different "font" sizes and scripts.  Now, my most important question is CAN ALL RECIPIENTS READ THIS OK?????  If you're AOL members you should be able to read just fine.  BUT those outside AOL may have a bit of difficulty as it is more than just plain old text (txt) format.  Please let me know and I'll adjust accordingly if needed.
    Thanks
    GFS Jim

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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific question that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail :D

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots", after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files Library Center", then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files. Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters". 
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Andersonville lookups From: frye@gnat.net (FRYE FAMILY)
Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors
http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm 
Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison as well as his "lookup" offer above. The address is: http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>

ED. NOTE: Please visit this website.. it is awesome.. 
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Weekly Web Sites we've received:

A Bit of Humor from Alysabeth:
    This is really funny
        http://www.datacom.ch/rf.buecheler/Moving/Moving.htm 

From GFS Jayne:
    War of the Rebellion - Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies
        http://www.nara.gov/nara/naralibrary/ref/amyreb.html 

These are from IrishInCal
    The Battle of Falken Web Site.
        http://www.battleofaiken.org 

    Confederate History of Georgia 1861-1865
        http://home.mho.net/wfparrish/acw.html 

    Civil War Indexes and Genealogy
        http://www.imagin.net/~tracers/civilwar.htm
            Bless your heart Grace :D You are indeed a "wealth"!!

These are from one new to our group - DeeRoots:
        The American Civil War Homepage
            http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/ 

        Military History Institute Image Collection (Carlisle Barracks)
            http://carlisle-ww.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html
                Thanks Dee for jumping right in there :-)

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.....DID YOU KNOW.....

What was happening during Christmas 1861, the first Christmas of the war?  In Washington, the Lincolns had guests for Christmas dinner at the White House.  He and his Cabinet also met at some length on this Christmas Day -- in the White House,  as was the custom.

In the field this first Christmas, Union and Confederate shooting -- skirmishing, they call it -- took place near Frederick, Maryland.  Union ships stopped and seized a Reb blockade-runner off Cape Fear.  A minor Union expedition was in motion in Missouri -- no great results to report.

It was a Wednesday, and just days before there had been consternation in the Lincoln White House over Mary Todd Lincoln's spendthrift ways.  She had already exceeded her congressional appropriation for interior refurbishment, and she was in tears over the embarrassing issue.  Husband Abraham was upset, too, saying none to prettily, "It would stink in nostrils of the American people" to know he approved expenses "overrunning an appropriation of $20,000 for Flub dubs for this damned old house, when the soldiers cannot have blankets."

In any case, the presidential home did look much better for the holidays, and despite the tragedies of war there was momentary joy and warmth of the Lincolns in being all together one last time.  Eldest son Robert was down from Harvard, and his young brothers Willie and Tad were on hand as well.  Two months later, Willie, only eleven, would be dear, a victim of fever.  After that shock, Mary Todd Lincoln, already subject to emotional swings, would never be the same again.

Christmas Day of 1862, the second Christmas of the war, came to a nation far more war-weary.  The Lincolns marked their holiday by visiting the wounded in Washington hospitals.  Fighting -- no major battles, but real fighting -- took place at widely scattered sites.  William T. Sherman was moving down the Mississippi from Memphis to Vicksburg, and there was fighting near Brentwood and on the Edmonson Pike in Tennessee; at Ripley, Mississippi; and near Warrenton, Virginia; and at Green's Chapel and Bear Willow in Kentucky.  Few could be happy with the state of the divided nation this day.

On Christmas Day of 1863, a Friday, little change in the inclinations of the belligerents would have been apparent to the unacquainted spectator looking down from on high.  Except, perhaps, for more naval action.  In South Carolina'' Sono River, Federal gunboats dueled with Confederate shore batteries, with severe damage to the Union's Marblehead.  A similar exchange took place between the USS Pawnee and shore guns at St. John's Island near Charleston.  Ashore, Union troops destroyed Rebel salt works at Bear Inlet, North Carolina, and fought the Johnny Reb at Fort Brooke, Florida.

By Christmas Day of 1864, a Sunday (since 1864 was a Leap Year), the obvious end was not in sight - obvious except that the Union suffered ignominious defeat in its attempt to land sixty-five hundred troops, support by nearly sixty warships, at Fort Fisher, North Carolina.

The entire assemblage had to sail back to Hampton Roads in Virginia to round after round of recriminations among the Federal commanders.  The amphibious assault would be repeated three weeks later, on January 13, 1865, with far greater success,

Elsewhere on Christmas Day, John Bell Hood's shattered Army of Tennessee was hurrying as well as it cold out of Tennessee, with skirmishing at Richland Creek, Anthony's Hill, and White's Station.  Petersburg, Virginia, was under tight siege by by the Union forces commanded by U.S. Grant.  And in the western theater Sterling Price's Rebel forces were in retreat from Missouri.  The Confederacy was shrinking in size and spirit day by day.  What would the next Christmas Day hold for all?

By Christmas Day of 1865, a Monday, there was little joy, but the heart-rending was was over.  It had been over for several months, but its stark images would linger and haunt for generations.  By now the Confederacy had fallen; Jefferson Davis was a prison; Henry Wirz, commandant of the notorious Andersonville Confederate Prison in Georgia, had been hanged; Abraham Lincoln had been assassinated; and Tennessee-born Andrew Johnson was president.  Four alleged conspirators in the Lincoln assassination, including a woman, Marry Surratt, had been hanged.  And, and interesting postscript, the Thirteenth Amendment to the U. S. Constitution -- abolishing slavery -- had gained final ratification, with Alabama, North Carolina, Georgia, and Oregon all voting for it since December1.

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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..

Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto others as.... you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the "Fireside"!! 
GFS Jim

IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!! 
Thanks!! - The Editors

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We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. Their screen names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor their "goodness" and don't abuse them :-).... We ask that you do follow the guidelines indicated above....

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From: CW1865
My gr gr grandfather, Pvt. Adam Schneider, 183rd Ohio Infantry, died on the Sultana on April 17, 1865, while coming home from Confederate prison with over 2,000 other parolees. Shortly after, his family in Cincinnati was visited by a survivor of this disaster who was also his friend, Pvt. Michael Conrad, and Conrad told my gr gr grandmother what happened to her husband. I am looking for descendants of Conrad in the hopes that they can tell us Michael's version so what happened the night the Sultana went down.
Thanks so much! 
Pam Newhouse

{{{Pam}}} - I'm glad to hear from you. We'll be sure to put this in the newsletter and see what hits we get :D Anyone able to help Pam out, please respond to GFS Jim and CW1865. Ed. Note: for those that don't recognize Pam, she is the Editor and Publisher of a newsletter "The Sultana Remembered" published for descendants and interested persons. (The Sultana Descendants meet annually in Knoxville, TN on the date of the disaster - April 27, 1865)
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IllinoisCW is looking for someone living in or near Livingston County, NY. He's trying to locate a possible gravesite. If you think you might be able to help, e-mail IllinoisCW@aol.com for further details

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TEAPOT311 wants to know if there would be records at the National Archives if an ancestor was a "scout" for General Grant... Teapot311 does not know if ancestor was actually in the military. Any help out there????
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From:  Jab0615
Photo request for Brigade markers of Smith's Brigade on East Confederate Ave. on the East slope of Culps Hill in Gettysburg. My Grgr grandfather was in Co. "G" 31st Virginia Inf. that fought there.
J. Beale
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From TUBES 14
Hi Jim: Jab0615 has been sent the information on his ancestors regiment from Gettysburg - Tom

"Tom" (GFS TEG) - Thanks partner :D
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Carol Jake is still looking for someone to take a picture for here at the Philadelphia National Cemetery, Haines St. and Limekiln Pike of her soldier ancestor, John HEDGLIN in Section B grave 639. She has a map of the cemetery she will scan if you need it.
She is also still looking for information about the 185 PA Inf, Co. B
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From: Carol jake
Hi All and Thank You to the Fireside Newsletter, Peggy and most of all BILL!!!!!
Bill did take the pictures and I heard from him today, he has developed the film and I should have the picture of the stone soon. As Peggy says "it pays to advertise."
THANKS A MILLION TO ALL IF I CAN HELP ANYONE PLEASE LET ME KNOW!! (this will be forwarded to the Mercer County Website to their Civil War Section) :)
((((Carol))) Whoppee!!!! Paydirt, Heh Heh Thanks Peggy and Bill. This really does work... :-)
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Pugnutty is also still looking for someone to take photos of CW ancestors' graves...
Daniel Boone CORBIN Co. F, 10th MO Infantry of the war and discharged 17 Oct 1862. He died 15 Nov 1925 and is buried in New Salem Cemetery, Couch, MO
William Henry CORBIN, Private, Co.E, 24th MO Infantry, he served for 3 yrs 6 months, 21 days and was shot in the hip and held in Libby Prison. Died 5 Jan 1934. Buried Melbourne, MO.

ED. NOTE: anybody near either of those cemeteries????

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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...

Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information, Feedbacks, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...

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 From: IrishInCal
All I can say is... WOW!!! what a newsletter. Great Job!! Sure love reading it.
Grace

{{{Grace}}} These kind of feedbacks let us know we're going OK! Thank you Ma'am....
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From: DeesRoots
I had a great find!! While doing my son's genealogy, I was permitted to borrow the family bible, a 5 inch thick leather bound bible. I went through page by page and found a tin type photo of one of my son's ancestors in full dress Civil War uniform. If only I could find a photo of one of my ancestos like that!
I am starting to collect books on the Civil War, if there are any that you know of that are particularly good, please pass the titles on to me. You probably already know about these sites, but I will forward just in case. If you happen to know about any other good CW sites, pass them along.
Dee

{{Dee}} We're tickled to death with your "find". Yes indeed we all wish!!!! Heh Heh -- I got your sites and they are posted up the the "Help Desk" in the Web Sites for the week area. They are old favorites of ours, but it always pays to republish them because they are soooo good. Now to respond to your "book" question. For a good (not too deep) summary of the major events in the Civil War, I prefer "The Atlas of the Civil War" by James M. McPherson.
For a quick reference to day to day history of the Civil War, try "The Civil War Day By Day", by E.B. Long with Barbara Long.

Three great starter books for you are 1) Gods and Generals by Jeff Shaara; 2) Killer Angels by Michael Shaara (that's Jeff's father) and 3) The Last Full Measure by Jeff Shaara. They all three read like novels and are three of my favorites. We'll "ply" the membership and see what their preferences are... :)

OK Faithful -- Heh Heh -- Tell Dee your favorites
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From: Shilohtn
Thank you so much for this!!!!.. I will look forward to being in the Golden Gates.. and thank you... this is absolutely wonderful and so interesting... again, thank you!! I really appreciate getting this very much!!!

"Shilohtn" - You have made our day :-) Thank you.
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From: "Friend" Alysabth:

WANING TRUST Americans' trust in other people has declined steadily for at least 20 years, new research at Ohio State University suggests. The study looked at data from a nation wide survery that asked several questions about trust, such as whether respondents thought people usually "would try to take advantage of you if they got a chance." Results showed that trust in individuals declined about 10 percent between 1975 and 1994, a rate of about one-half percent each year. Overall, the results show that the sense of community in the United States - what sociologists call social capital- has declined in the United States, but not alarmingly, said Pamela Paxton, author of the study and assistant professor of sociology "I don't think there's a crisis" she said. "People still talk to their neighbors, they still participate in associations and they generally trust the major institutions of society. But the decline in personal trust is troubling."

{{{Beth}}} great piece - thanks. I'm thinking the solution here is not words or pronouncements, but examples in real life.. Walk the Walk!! There's a bit of biblical wisdom that applies here.. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto You..."
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From: FAD33
Jim, I have just checked the pigpen site for the Confederates who surrendered and were paroled at Vicksburg. Again, neither of my known kin. for whom I have the papers from the Military Park as being paroled, were listed. The only sure way of knowing is to consut with the Park at Vicksburg. Terry Wenschel is the current historian.

I STILL have trouble getting on line Thursday nights. I miss hearing all the good stuff - Frances Ann

{{{Frances}}} Thank you for the feedback. Frances was referring to a website posted some weeks ago for the Vicksburg Memorial Park history and material. She gives excellent advice. The Web Sites we post are only as accurate and complete as the originators put forth in the efforts. Many are good but incomplete. The term for these is called "Construction in Progress". That progress could take awhile. Also many have asked why the census records and their like (in terms of records) aren't online. To get all those records online would require complete re-enty by hand of EVERY piece of information. There isn't a scanner in the world today that could do any type of translation scan of that much hand-written information. Have you ever actually read the reproduced copies of that information.
Heh Heh.. I can't even read some of it...

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
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OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War".

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or molded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum. 

As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered into discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly Fireside." 

AND AGAIN TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)

We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up" with what members bring to the discussions, and we hope to see more of you.... Note that for any reason, should you desire to be removed from distribution of this "Weekly Missif", just drop us a line and we will comply with your wishes "poste- haste". 

Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events***** 

Time:  Every Thursday Night at 11 pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with hosts GFH Amy, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFS Jim and our many faithful friends  :)

12/09/99 - "Letters, Songs and Poems of the Civil War" Our very special night, please join us!! Don't forget to send us any of your family "treasures: you want to share with the room and we'll certainly oblige you... Send to GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFH Amy or GFS TEG.

12/16/99 - OPEN CHAT   "Bring your Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer them.......

12/23/99 - CHRISTMAS EVE plus One - Your hosts will be taking this day and adding it to Friday to spend without families and we do so desire you to enjoy the same.  We wish you all Merry Christmas.  Make some more memories  :D  By the way, the room will be open, it will just be "UnHosted"... but I wouldn't be surprised if one of us just might drop by...

12/30/99  "The Perryville Story".....  The tale was written by GFS TEG and will be presented by GFS Jayne...

We'll See You Thursday Night...!
Your Joyful, intelligent and Fun-lovin' Hosts/Hostesses
GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFH Amy

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 12 December 1999

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Mission Statement : To serve all genealogists by providing an enjoyable online environment with as many helpful and reliable resources as possible.
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Well, it was another memorable night of reading Letters, Poems and Songs of the Civil War period. FBenway brought us another of his originals and one of newer members LParr emailed a scanned picture of an original family treasure. It's posted in the New Files Upload area of the Genealogy Forum. Here's another note for everyone; GFS Jayne has finished the missing Letters, Songs, and Poems logs and they are now available to you in the History Lectures "drawer" of the Genealogy Forum's Files Library. Help yourself...

The Music: I did something different for tonight. Instead of listening to CDs I was watching one of the Cables channels and ran across Mr. Holland's Opus. I couldn't tear myself away. That is one of my all time favorite movies and what a story! It is a great story about a Music teacher. If you get a chance and haven't seen it yet, watch it for the holidays. You'll laugh, you'll smile and you'll bawl like a baby. 
I also have another choice CD for you. Her name is Charlotte Church from Wales and her CD is called Voice of an Angel. What an incredible talent. Charlotte is 13 years old and was the singer in "Joan of Arc".
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This coming Thursday is your night (OPEN CHAT). We'll talk about anything pertaining to the American Civil War. Between Jayne, Tom, Amy and I we'll probably come up your answers :-) Come on out and join us if you have the chance. 
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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE REALLY WELCOME YOU TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY.. 

For you information, every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put on the newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a "Thank You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We do this to give you an opportunity to jump right in with us. If you desire NOT to receive the newsletter, then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will quickly remove your screen name from distribution. We certainly don't want to clog your mailbox with unwanted material. Also many of you pass on the newsletter to others that don't subscribe to AOL. We really want to thank you for spreading the word. I would also like to let you know that we would be happy to add them to our list if they have email of any sort. We distribute everywhere to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a requirement although we'd love to see you in the Chat Room :D 


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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail :D 

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots", after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files Library Center", then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files. Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters". 
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Andersonville lookups From: frye@gnat.net (FRYE FAMILY)
Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors
http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm 
Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison as well as his "lookup" offer above. The address is: http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>

ED. NOTE: Please visit this website.. it is awesome.. 
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Weekly Web Sites we've received

from AJWRJW
Allington Alphonso Crandall
http://home.att.net/~larryholly/Crandall.htm
thanks Amy

from GFS Cindy - "some Civil War Christmas Sites"
Christmas Customs (Colonial Virginia).
http://www.history.org/life/xmas/customs.htm 
"Another Look At Christmas In The Eighteenth Century".
http://www.history.org/life/xmas/xmasqa.htm 
"Christmas, 1861 -1865". This site has 13 Confederate and 13 Union narratives on the thoughts/experiences of the men during the Civil War Christmas seasons, taken from their letters, diaries and memoirs. These accounts make for interesting and informative reading.
http://www.lib.utc.edu/preview/index.html 
"Christmas In The Confederate White House" written by Mrs. Jefferson 
Davis.
http://www.access.digex.net/~bdboyle/confed.xmas1.html 
We have a carol with this one.
http://www.civilweek.com/1861/dec2261.htm 
"Christmas In The Irish Regiments Of The Army Of The Potomac"
http://www.the wildgeese.com/pages/chrstmas.html      
"Building New Holiday Traditions
http://www.ancestry.com/tour/tour2.along.htm  
{{{Cindy}}} these are great!

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.... Holiday Poems and Greetings....

Sent by GFS Pilgrim:
Twas The Day Before Yesterday

TWAS the day before yesterday and all through the branches,
NOT a name to be found, none of my ancestors.

THE Journals and Bibles were dusty and worn,
WHY should we care, these kinfolk are gone.

THE pictures of children and family, long ago dead,
ARE scattered, crinkled, and crammed under beds.

DAD in his chair, and I with a book,
HAD just settled back to give the TV a look.

WHEN out on the street there arose such a clatter,
I sprang to my feet to see what was the matter.

ON the way to the window I tripped with a crash,
I tore open the curtains and looked through the glass.

THE sun in the sky was nowhere in sight,
THE clouds were so gray, it could have been night.

WHEN what to my wondering eyes should appear,
THE Mailman with packages, letters and cards of good cheer.

THE driver was grumbling while sorting his letters,
I knew in a moment, things had to get better.

THE size of one letter stood out from them all,
A distant cousin was asking about family, one and all.

THE names of Grandpa and Grandma, Great Grandparents all
NEXT came my Father, my Brother, and Uncle Paul.

FROM cousins and uncles to aunts and nephews,
NIECES and in-laws, just to name a few.

SO through the many journals and photos, and stuff I possessed,
MY search for my ancestors slowly progressed.

WHILE up the family tree I gradually climbed,
MY ancestors names, I was seeking to find.

UPON that tree I have carved many a name,
THE branches of which, will never be the same.

THE tree is now filled with many I've found,
BUT in the search for others, now I am bound.

THE ancestors whose names, I have written with love,
THE Lord has gathered to take to His Father above.

WITH so many names yet to be carved on that tree,
I have little time to waste on games and TV.

GATHERING names, photos, histories and places,
REQUIRES a lot of love, patience, and God's good graces.

SOME were Farmers, Soldiers and such, Mothers and Fathers
who struggled much.
SOME were Settlers, who traveled far, some Adventures,
who followed the stars.

SOME were rich but most were poor, they came by ship,
seeking more.
SOME died young, others old, many their stories yet untold.

I cried when I thought of those brothers and sisters,
FOR I am who I am, thanks to my ancestors.

MY family is but one branch on the Tree of Life,
A tree that grew strong through toil and strife.

ALONE, I'm just a bare twig or a stub,
TOGETHER we build a Family Tree of Love
(Written by Linnie Vanderford Poyneer
one night after a long day of research)

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from GFH Amy - After the chat last nite I had to dig out my Whitman book!

Memories of President Lincoln - 
"Hushed Be the Camps Today (May 4, 1865)

Hush'd be the camps today,
And soldiers, let us drape our war-worn weapons,
And each with musing soul retire to celebrate,
Our dear commander's death.

No more for him life's stormy conflicts,
Nor victory, nor defeat - no more time's dark events,
Charging like ceaseless clouds across the sky.

But sing, poet, in our name,
Sing of the love we bore him - because you,
dweller in camps, know it truly.

As they invault the coffin there,
Sing - as they close the doors on Earth upon 
him - one verse,
For the heavy hearts of soldiers.

This Dust Was Once The Man

This dust was once the man,
Gentle, plain, just and resolute, under whose
cautious hand
Against the foulest crime in history known
in any land or age,
Was saved the Union of the States.

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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..

Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto others as.... you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the "Fireside"!! 
GFS Jim

IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!! 
Thanks!! - The Editors

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We have had some gracious members offer their assistance in this area. Their screen names and areas they have offered to help in are listed.... Please honor their "goodness" and don't abuse them :-).... We ask that you do follow the guidelines indicated above....

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From: CW1865
My gr gr grandfather, Pvt. Adam Schneider, 183rd Ohio Infantry, died on the Sultana on April 17, 1865, while coming home from Confederate prison with over 2,000 other parolees. Shortly after, his family in Cincinnati was visited by a survivor of this disaster who was also his friend, Pvt. Michael Conrad, and Conrad told my gr gr grandmother what happened to her husband. I am looking for descendants of Conrad in the hopes that they can tell us Michael's version so what happened the night the Sultana went down.
Thanks so much! 
Pam Newhouse

{{{Pam}}} - I'm glad to hear from you. We'll be sure to put this in the newsletter and see what hits we get :D Anyone able to help Pam out, please respond to GFS Jim and CW1865. Ed. Note: for those that don't recognize Pam, she is the Editor and Publisher of a newsletter "The Sultana Remembered" published for descendants and interested persons. (The Sultana Descendants meet annually in Knoxville, TN on the date of the disaster - April 27, 1865)
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IllinoisCW is looking for someone living in or near Livingston County, NY. He's trying to locate a possible gravesite. If you think you might be able to help, e-mail IllinoisCW@aol.com for further details

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TEAPOT311 wants to know if there would be records at the National Archives if an ancestor was a "scout" for General Grant... Teapot311 does not know if ancestor was actually in the military. Any help out there????
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From: hood@rica.net (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill, New
Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry,
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg , W. Va., where he died on
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named.
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or
advice.
Thank you VERY much.
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va.

"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the membership who many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of the Civil War and see what we can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say ye??
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Pugnutty is also still looking for someone to take photos of CW ancestors' graves.....
Daniel Boone CORBIN Co. F, 10th MO Infantry of the war and discharged 17 Oct. 1862. He died 15 Nov. 1925 and is buried in New Salem Cemetary, Couch, MO.
William Henry CORBIN, Private, Co. E, 24th MO Infantry, he served for 3 yrs 6months, 21days and was shot in the hip and held in Libby Prison. Died 5 Jan 1934. Buried Melbourne, MO.

Jim, Hello, Just to let you know---my request for getting photos of cemetary headstones in Missouri has been partly fulfilled. My very own brother, made a trip two weeks ago to West Plains,MO and asked me if I wanted him to bring anything back!!! I told him photos of our Great Grandfathers, Civil War Veteran, Daniel Boone CORBIN's headstone in the New Salem Cemetary in Couch. So I am thrilled. Just wanted you to know you can remove that request.
Thank You,
Kathleen

{{{{Kathleen}}}}} .............finally you made it! :-) Nuff said ....
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...

Check out the following member inputs for comments and requests for information, Feedbacks, Items of Interest and Plea's for HELP...

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From: Saxonm444
Hi! I am certainly enjoying the newsletter and I have received a lot of good ideas. I need help with a site I think was on the Fireside a few weeks ago. (My printers out so I can't currently print out the info that I want) The site had to do with the Hospital at St. Louis, MO during the war. Am now looking for someone who died there. Any help? Keep up the good work. 
And, thanks for the prompt reply on my previous question! You are super people on the Fireside! Mary Saxon

{{{Mary}}} This is the only posting that fit your question.......
Military Hospitals in the North
Material researched from the National Archives and copyrighted in 1984 by
Frances Ingmire & Carolyn Ericson. Distributed by: Ericson Books, 1614 Redbud Street, Nacogdoches, TX 75961; and Ingmire Publications, 10166 Clairmont Drive
St. Louis, MO 63136
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From: DeesRoots
I had a great find! While doing my sons genealogy, I was permitted to borrow the family bible, a 5 inch thick leather bound bible. I went through page by page and found a tin type photo of one of my sons ancestors in full dress Civil War uniform. If only I could find a photo of one of my ancestors like that!
I am starting to collect books on the Civil War, if there are any that you know of that are particularly good, please pass the titles on to me. You probably already know about these sites, but I will forward just in case. If you happen to know about any other good CW sites, please pass them along. 
Dee

{{Dee}} here's some more feed back from JRose10700: Right, Jim, the Shaara books (father and son) rank among my all-time favorites. Right up there with the old Bruce Catton books, which got me started on Civil War-ana way back at Christmas, 1939, when I got one in my Santa stocking! Can't remember if it was Mr. Lincoln's Generals or Glory Road since I read them all as they came out. And still do!
But I want to recommend one that my son gave me last year for Christmas, and it has been a jewel. I keep it by my computer as handy reference when surfing sites, during the Thursday chats and when planning trip itineraries. So handy. It is called "Civil War Sourcebook - A Traveler's Guide" by Chuck Lawliss, published by Harmony Books of New York and available locally at Barnes and Noble. Mine is paper back.
I picked up an old copy of Blue and Gray, both volumes in one, at a flea market the other day and am enjoying dipping into it. In my retirement days second-hand books have to do me, and thank goodness! there are bunches of great CW books that folks are letting loose of. Besides, browsing the haphazard shelves is such great fun. You never know what you might find. And by the way, thanks for the prompt reply! You are super people on the Fireside
love
joan
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From: Doclynch
Well I received an answer to my search for information on the graves located in the old Vineland Cemetery here in Orange County, Florida. This is the information I received from Robert Morss at rdmorss@morssweb.com
Here are some leads:
Charles H. Foster
Residence Lawrence MA; a 35 year-old Farmer.
Enlisted on 8/9/62 as a Private.
On 9/4/62 he mustered into "B" Co. MA 3rd Cavalry
He was discharged on 5/20/65
Source: Massachusetts Soldiers, Sailors and Marines in the Civil War

Washington Ludwig
Residence not listed; 22 years old.
Enlisted on 9/28/61 at Lockport, NY as a Private.
On 10/14/61 he mustered into "Batty M" Co. NY 1st Light Artillery
He was discharged on 10/12/64 Atlanta, GA
Promotions:
* Corpl 11/1/62
* Private 4/29/64 (Reduced to ranks)
Sources: New York, Report of the Adjutant-General

I am more certain of the Foster ID than the Ludwig. For my Ludwig to be
correct, you'd have to check the gravestone and see it if confirms the
above. I suspect it says "Co. M NY. LT. A." (What appeared to be "In" is
actually "N" I think) Are you close enough that you could check the actual
stones?
3rd Mass Cavalry was attached to the Army of the Gulf and later the Army of
the Shenandoah.
1st NY Lt Arty served with the Army of the Potomace, Twelfth Corps, which (a
few months after Gettysburg) was transferred to the Army of the Cumberland,
participating in the Chattanooga and Atlanta campaigns.
From the above it seems there is no connection between the two men. It
appears they both survived the war. Their burial in the same graveyard in
Florida I would guess is coincidental -- i.e. they both moved there after
the war.
Let me know if this helps, and keep me posted if you find the stones?
Regards,
Robert Morss

[from Sharon] I believe he is right on target with his information. I spoke with a volunteer at the local Family History Center here in Orlando and she had actually seen these two headstone 2 years ago. She has offered to take me to the site and show me where they are located. She checked the 1956 FHC microfilm that was referenced in the little cemetery book and we discovered Corp. Ludwig's information should of read Co. M InY.L.A. not " Y.T.A. " After receiving Robert Morss's e-mail I am convinced the " In " should be a capital " N " This will match up with what information Robert sent.
Also I discovered a cemetery file contributed to the USGenWeb Archives by William Morgan listing the Civil War Veterans (Confederate and Union) buried in Orange County, Florida :
ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/fl/orange/cemetery/civil.txt
His information also lists these two Union veterans and identifies Corp. W. Ludwig as being a member of the 1st NY Light Artillery.
I plan to visit this old abandoned cemetery that mother nature has reclaimed and try to locate the headstones. I will try to photograph them if they are still there.
Thank you for any time you have given to helping me in this matter. Keep up the wonderful work you do. By learning about our veterans their memories will not be lost even though they have been called home. Two days ago they were just names in a little book now look what we have learned and what more there is to still learn about them since the end of the Civil War in 1865!!!!
Sharon Lynch

"Sharon" - Congratulations on your find with Jayne's support.... :-) Your success makes the "idea" of this newsletter and the SIG work....

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From: HoganCE
Thanks Jim for the info on Christmas in 1861-1865. Hadn't really ever thought about it before. I had heard Lincoln's comment on the $ being spent on the Whitehouse and the soldiers without blankets. Anyway take care. Happy Holidays!
Carin

Carin - Thanks for the feedback.
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From: FI WATROUS
Berwick Police were involved in an unusual incident whilst checking for
speeding motorists on the A1 road between Oldhamstocks and Grantshouse. Last
May, they were using a hand-held radar device to trap unwary motorists on
the Edinburgh-to-London trunk road. One of the unnamed officers used the
device to check the speed of an approaching vehicle, and was surprised to
find that his target had registered a speed in excess of 300 miles per hour.
The radar device then seized up and could not be re-set by the befuddled
PCs. The radar had in fact latched on to a NATO Tornado aircraft in the North
Sea, which was taking part in a simulated low-flying exercise over the
Borders and Southern Scotland.
Following a complaint by Sir William Sutherland, Chief Constable of the
Lothian & Borders Police force to the RAF liaison office, it was revealed
that the officers had a lucky escape.
The tactical computer on board the aircraft not only detected and jammed the
"hostile" radar equipment, but had automatically armed a Sidewinder
air-to-ground missile ready to neutralise the perceived threat. Luckily the
Dutch pilot was alerted to the missile status and was able to
override the automatic protection system before the missile launched.
The Police have so far declined to comment, although it is understood that
officers will be advised to point their radar guns inland in future.

{{Ike}} - I dying laughin...... This is indeed rich! Thanks for the lift...
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From: Jowhara7
Season's Greetings 
to all my
Genealogy Friends and Cuzzies

May this holiday season bring you peace, love, joy and a new cuzzin or two.
You all have made this year very important to me.
May whoever you worship bless you and keep you in the years to come.
Your genie friend,
Jacque Sue
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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT

OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War".

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or moulded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum. 

As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered into discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly Fireside." 

AND AGAIN TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)

We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up" with what members bring to the discussions, and we hope to see more of you.... Note that for any reason, should you desire to be removed from distribution of this "Weekly Missif", just drop us a line and we will comply with your wishes "poste- haste". 

Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events***** 

Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFH Amy, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFS Jim and our many faithful friends :) 

12/16/99 - Open Chat "Bring your Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer them...........

12/23/99 - CHRISTMAS EVE plus One - Your hosts will be taking this day and adding it to Friday to spend with our families and we do so desire you to enjoy the same. We wish you all a very Merry Christmas. Make some more memories :D By the way the room will be open, it will just be "UnHosted".... But I wouldn't be surprised if one of us just might drop by....

12/30/99 - "The Perryville Story"..... The tale was written by GFS TEG and will be presented by GFS Jayne....

01/06/2000 - Can you believe it's 2000? Well we're going to leave this OPEN CHAT so you can bring your Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer them...........

01/13/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night.

01/20/2000 - OPEN CHAT

We'll See You Thursday Night..! 
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's/Hostess's :-)
GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFH Amy 

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 19 December 1999

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Mission Statement : To serve all genealogists by providing an enjoyable online environment with as many helpful and reliable resources as possible.
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Last Thursday, was a great one for just asking questions, sharing Web Sites and greeting "first-times". Jayne, Tom and Amy did all the work because I was having "screen freeze" problems all night. "Bummer"! If you didn't make it, we missed ya... Here's another note for everyone; GFS Jayne has finished the December Letters, Songs, and Poems logs and they are now available to you in the History Lectures "drawer" of the Genealogy Forum's Files Library. Help yourself...
As you will note this week in the "Fireside", we've made this one our "Christmas Edition". We received Christmas greetings for all the membership sent to us and so we've put them all in the newsletter. We even received a Christmas Present of a story to share from JRose10700 which you'll see later in "A Bit of Community". Don't forget to read them because they are from some of you to ALL of you!! :-)

This has been just an awesome year for GFS Jayne and I as we've been joined by the prodigious talents of GFS TEG and GFH Amy which brings our Hosting Team to Four. This has been our best year yet and it's all due to your heart-felt and enthusiastic participation. You represent some incredible talent and you don't hesitate to share it with your stories, e-mails, letters, poems, wisdom and knowledge week after week. You represent close to Three Generations (in genealogy terms of 20 years per generation) in age and to hold the attention of that span of living just blows me away. We can honestly say that the BEST FOLKS ON AOL come to our SIG!! That ain't bad out of 15 million AOL members. Jayne, Amy, Tom and I do wish to thank you from the bottom of our hearts and to wish you and yours the best ever Merry Christmas and Happy New Year at the close of this Millenium.......

The Music: This is a perfect choice for the Christmas season. I've had this CD for some time and have enjoyed it immensely. Lorenna McKinnitt is one of my all time favorite Celtic female vocalists and her arrangements are just incredible. This particular CD is called "Dicken's Dublin". There is one incredible song she has arranged of the same name where Lorenna sings a Celtic backdrop while a little 5 year old girl tells the story of Christmas in her own words. It just takes your breath away. Absolutely unique to anything I've heard, and the little girl just steals your heart.... Enjoy!!!!
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This coming Thursday is Drop In Hour (DIH), because your hosts/hostess' will be enjoying a Christmas Break as we encourage you all to do as well. However, the room will be open if you desire to drop in to see who's there. We might drop by (which we usually do) but we wanted to leave it unhosted on the schedule... :-) 
We'll keep a light on for you ....*>*
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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE REALLY WELCOME YOU TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY.. 

For your information, every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put on the newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a "Thank You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We do this to give you an opportunity to jump right in with us. If you desire NOT to receive the newsletter, then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will quickly remove your screen name from distribution. We certainly don't want to clog your mailbox with unwanted material. Also many of you pass on the newsletter to others that don't subscribe to AOL. We really want to thank you for spreading the word. I would also like to let you know that we would be happy to add them to our list if they have email of any sort. We distribute everywhere to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a requirement although we'd love to see you in the Chat Room :D 


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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail :D 

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots", after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files Library Center", then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files. Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters". 
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Andersonville lookupsFrom: frye@gnat.net (FRYE FAMILY)
Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors
http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm 
Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison as well as his "lookup" offer above. The address is: http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>

ED. NOTE: Please visit this website.. it is awesome.. 
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Weekly Web Sites we've received

from IrishInCal:
Homestead - Free Web Sites (lost of CW links)
http://www.homestead.com/shannonsearching/files/index.htm
Poetry and Music of the War Between the States
http://www.erols.com/kfraser/

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from GFS Jayne:
CWXmas
http://www.lib.utc.edu/preview/index.html
This Week in the Civil War:
http://www.civilweek.com/1861/dec2261.htm
Christmas in the Confederate White House
http://www.access.digex.net/~bdboyle.confed.xmas1.html
There is a fairly new website: StateGenSites - Home Page.
http://www.stategensites.com/ 
On there you will find a new column "Bits of Blue and Gray" It will be a monthly column and the January one has made it's debut already G>

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.... more Holiday Greetings....
From: Janewimb
We are having such a good time reading the newsletter. Laughing at some and getting tears in some of the poems. This has been such a great experience. Wish all the hosts a Merry Christmas and all the Visitors the same. Really great place to visit and helps to push us all on in our research.

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From: DeeW84 and family:
To all of you at the "Fireside", a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy Holiday to start the new Year of 2000!!!!

You all have my sincere thanks for giving me a wonderful year full of the greatest Civil War stories. I have learned so much more than I had ever known of the true stories of that War. I also am very grateful to all the people who work on the Civil War SIG--May you have many presents under your trees!!!
Jim, thank you for your visits, you are a wonderful person and I am so very appreciative of your calls. They have made my days!!! Hope Santa leaves you everything you wrote and asked him for!!

Jayne, Thanks for your kindness and help this past year, it has meant a lot to me. May Santa's pack be empty when he leaves your house after leaving your gifts and that he leaves lots of love, peace and happiness.

Teg, Thanks for all the hard work you have done for us, your presentations have been terrific. Is Santa leaving you lots of the wonderful family and history books that you need?

Amy, Thanks for being a part of the Fireside--I know we shall enjoy getting to know you well this coming year. I wish you all the Happiness for your Santa gifts.

And now I must go, with this wish for all the Firesiders, Peace in your hearts and Love in your manner, Health in your House and Friendship for all. We need a much more friendly planet and as the saying goes, Let there be Peace on Earth and Let it Begin with me! 
Above all, Remember the Blessed Season and be Kind to one another.

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From: GENESGENE
Happy Holidays Jayne, Jim,And other leaders of the pack. I am sure you are wondering why I would send this link, but if you will go there,you will find history,click on it and you will find a very little known, but intriguing part of the Cherokee nation in the war between the states. 
Welcome to Locust Grove, Oklahoma
http://www.locustgroveok.com/
Happy Holidays to You and Yours.
Jean

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From GFS Jayne:
Another year has passed already and what a year it has been!! Tom has been with us a little over a full year now and has gifted us with many of his stories. Amy has recently joined "the team" and I know you are all going to enjoy having her on board as much as we do. 
To my "Pard" Jim, I'd like to say thank you for a little over a year and a half of absolutely fantastic Thursday nights as your "pard". You've touched so many with your "way with words". Your love of music, history and life is being passed on to the rest of us. I guess it's a little contagious. We miss you when you aren't with us but we also know the paying job comes first. 
To my lil' brother Tom, I want to say thanks for everything you do to help me. Your generosity is beyond belief. When you say something is running thru your head, I know what's happening and I can't wait to read the resulting story. Your knowledge amazes me and I'm thankful you share it with me.
To Amy... welcome aboard!!!! You've joined quite a team here and we're mightly glad to have you with us. 
To the Faithful, thank you for being the inspiration to keep us all going. The inspiration for us to make the room and the Weekly Fireside even better than they are. You all have become like an extended family and I look forward to seeing everyone each week. Thank you for sharing your stories, your letters and your poems with us. All of that is what makes our room so special. 
May you all have Health, Happiness, Friendship and most of all I wish you Love (sounds like a song to me!) for this Holiday Season and the New Year to come. 

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From: HoganCE
Christmas Greetings from Denver, Colorado!
I just wanted to take a minute and say hello and wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a New Year filled with happiness, health and joy. It has really been a privilege to get to know you through the Civil War chat room. One of these days we will have to get GFS TEG, Ladytubes1 and GFS Jayne out to Colorado. Jim and I already experience it on a daily basis. I do look forward to meeting you someday. 
Here we are on the verge of a New Year, a New Decade, a New Century and a New Millennium..........what a blessing it is to be a part of it. Just think of what the next 10, 100 and 1000 years will bring. And somewhere along the way someone will be laughing at our computer age.............100 years ago they never thought man could fly or walk on the moon.......what an incredible time we are a part of.
God Bless you all!
Carin


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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..

Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto others as.... you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the "Fireside"!! 
GFS Jim

IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!! 
Thanks!! - The Editors

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From: CW1865
My gr gr grandfather, Pvt. Adam Schneider, 183rd Ohio Infantry, died on the Sultana on April 17, 1865, while coming home from Confederate prison with over 2,000 other parolees. Shortly after, his family in Cincinnati was visited by a survivor of this disaster who was also his friend, Pvt. Michael Conrad, and Conrad told my gr gr grandmother what happened to her husband. I am looking for descendants of Conrad in the hopes that they can tell us Michael's version so what happened the night the Sultana went down.
Thanks so much! 
Pam Newhouse

{{{Pam}}} - I'm glad to hear from you. We'll be sure to put this in the newsletter and see what hits we get :D Anyone able to help Pam out, please respond to GFS Jim and CW1865. Ed. Note: for those that don't recognize Pam, she is the Editor and Publisher of a newsletter "The Sultana Remembered" published for descendants and interested persons. (The Sultana Descendants meet annually in Knoxville, TN on the date of the disaster - April 27, 1865)
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IllinoisCW is looking for someone living in or near Livingston County, NY. He's trying to locate a possible gravesite. If you think you might be able to help, e-mail IllinoisCW@aol.com for further details

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TEAPOT311 wants to know if there would be records at the National Archives if an ancestor was a "scout" for General Grant... Teapot311 does not know if ancestor was actually in the military. Any help out there????

From: MRB1330
Teapot, Check this page. I recently had a question about a pension that my ancestor received which was discontinued . The record gave a number to check as the reason. I contacted NA and was called by telephone the next day to verify the problem and to tell me how to get more records (the rest of the story) on my ancestor. Perhaps they can answer your question about the scout for Gen. Grant. Good luck,
Peggy http://www.nara.gov/research/
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From: hood@rica.net (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill, New
Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry,
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg , W. Va., where he died on
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named.
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or
advice.
Thank you VERY much.
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va.

"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the membership who many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of the Civil War and see what we can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say ye??
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...

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From: JRose10700
Back in October, when I made plans to go to Missouri and to stop at Wilson's Creek near Springfield, Jayne suggested that I may want to write a report about my visit.
Now, a month later, I finally have gotten around to it. It comes to about 2300 words.
I am going to send it to you guys in two hops so I don't have to make an attachment that you are afraid to open and get a virus. (I am not contagious but I have had so much trouble with this darn Compaq that I would not surprise if it did not develop some brand-new never-heard-of-before infections and I would not want to contaminate you.)
What do I expect you to do with this masterpiece of work?
Anything you want to. Read it, print it. Chop it up in pieces. Whack it in two. Trash it. It is done, I have let go, and it is yours.
It is my Christmas present to you. Happy Holidays!!!
love
joan
{{{Joan}}} What a precious Christmas Present to the SIG.. Bless your heart.. Here's what we're gonna do. We read it and loved it; we "un-whacked" it from two pieces to one, and we've scheduled it as a "Story Night" for February 17, 2000.

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From: SusiCP
Would you like these.????? Sounds like a great site and more data for you to use.... Susi

....."While doing some research on Ephraim Elmer Ellsworth (the 1st Union officer killed in the Civil War), I came across the Cornell University's digital books site, "Making of America", which contains copies of The War of the Rebellion journals and over 100 volumes of digitized books. A great site for history buffs and genealogy enthusiasts. The address for this site is:
http://moa.cit.cornell.edu/MOA/moa-main_page.html
One book in the collection is "Genealogical Notes of New York and New England Families", compiled by S.V. Talcott in 1883. The Table of Contents is on page xiii, and the name Indexes start at page RB1 for New York and page RB23 for New England. This book , like the others in this collection are a bit tedious to look through since they are photo images, but the effort is worthwhile if you find something you can use.
The address for this book site is too long to handle, so go to the address shown above and then to the Browse MOA Book Collection, then to "T" (since the books are sorted by Author).
Another site that I came across is devoted to Civil War information with lots of region - specific information including the home pages described, below
http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/american_civil_war
A home page for the 134th New York Volunteer Infantry which was formed at Schoharie. It includes the full muster roll for the unit.
http://members.aol.com/gconkman/

{{{Susi}}}} OF COURSE we want it ... LOL Thank you muchly.

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From: DJoi
This year will be the first full Moon to occur on the wintersolstice, December 22, commonly called the first day of winter. Since a full Moon on the winter solstice occurred in conjunction with a lunar perigee (point in the Moon's orbit that is closest to Earth) the Moon will appear about 14 percent larger than it does at apogee (the
point in its elliptical orbit that is farthest from the Earth). And since the Earth is also several million miles closer to the Sun at this time of the year than inthe summer, sunlight striking the Moon is about seven percent stronger, making it brighter. Also, this will be the closest perigee of the Moon of the year since the Moon's orbit is
constantly deforming. If the weather is clear and there is snow cover where you live, it is believed that even car headlights will be superfluous.
On December 21, 1866, the Lakota Sioux took advantage of this combination of occurrences and staged a devastating retaliatory ambush on soldiers in the Wyoming Territory. In laymen's terms it will be a super bright full Moon, much more than the usual AND it hasn't happened this way for 133 years! Our ancestors 133 years ago saw this. Our descendants 100 or so years from now will see this again.
We hope you post this on your calendar and note it as a special
Christmas season event!
Remember, this will happen December 22,1999.......

{{{Dottie}}} Thanks for the heads up :D
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From: FI WATROUS
Can anyone help this fellow?

"Subj: Re: [NYALBANY] Civil War/34th NY Infantry Regt.
From: Trimmerrw@aol.com
Anyone familiar with the 34th NY, sometimes called the Herkimer Regt., but 
had many from Albany including my great-great-grandfather and brother? Lt. 
Louis Chapin of Albany wrote the regimental history in 1903."

"Ike" - we'll put this in the newsletter and see what hits.....
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From: BARTUP
I love the weekly fireside newsletters. I am usually working and cannot make the chats very often.
One thing I have noticed lately is the changing of fonts. Looks like italics and some bolded. I don't like to be a complainer but these fonts are coming through blurry and very hard to read if you have several lines of this type type together.
I will continue to enjoy your letters. Maybe its just my old eyes.
Barbara Palosky

{{{Barb}}} got your note and I've removed the italics in these areas to make it easier to read.... 
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From: Lorgriff
Thank you for your list of Christmas music. I sang with a local madrigal group for ten years and some of our favorite songs were the Burt carols. Being in Michigan, and knowing that a lot of his pieces were composed in Marquette, MI (where I lived for several years), made singing his carols that much more special for our group. I play my tape of our Burt carols every holiday season, and now its nice to know that a re-issue is available.
Happy holidays, All
Lorrie

{{{Lorrie}}} We're glad you enjoyed it and a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you.
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From: Snow Beri
We were watching TV last night and there was a bit on CW....and why the battles took place where they did... The man said at first it looks like there is no logic where the battles occurred until you put an overlay on the map showing the bourbon distilleries. Then it starts to make sense.... and also the time frame... When it would normally take soldiers 2 days to cross a section of land, instead it took 10 days. They were stopping at the distilleries.
I don't know if he was telling a joke or if he was serious... but it's an amusing story anyway.
Diane

{{{Diane}}} I love it. And it just the right "ring" to it to be true... LOL

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From: GFS TEG
To: DeesRoots
Hi Dee: From what I can see looking at the photo it is a very close match to one of two regiments. First its is not a Southern regiment. It is a very close match to either the 72nd PA or 155PA. Its kind of hard to decide which one for sure I will have to do some more research at the Park archives as soon as I have some free time.
GFS TEG (Tom)
Tom

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WHAT WE ARE ABOUT

OUR FOCUS: the "History of the American (United States) Civil War".

OUR GOAL: to enhance your Genealogy activity, knowledge, and "wisdom" by talking about the history surrounding their lives and actions; specifically the "Civil War" that our ancestors lived through and died because of.

Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes of the 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, said it so well.

"I think it is a noble and pious thing
To do whatever we may by written
Word or moulded bronze and sculpted
Stone to keep our memories, our
Reverence and our love alive and
To hand them on to new generations
All too ready to forget."

OUR PROMISE: to provide an "online" environment that is NOT judgmental and to address ALL aspects of this "Pivotal Period" in our History, with honesty and truth (as we know it).

We do "Fireside Stories" about the battles, the people and the social happenings. In addition we dedicate one Thursday a month to the sharing of Songs, Poems and Letters from that era. So come back and visit; we'll save you a seat at the Fireside, and keep the Cider warm..... For a full listing of upcoming events, either look on the Schedule at the end of this Notice or in the Upcoming Events of the Genealogy Forum. 

As we review the logs, and we find new visitors who show an interest or have entered into discussions on this topic in our Thursday sessions, we automatically add you to the distribution for this "Weekly Fireside." 

AND AGAIN TO YOU "FIRST-TIMERS" THIS WEEK, "Welcome"... :)

We heartily enjoyed your visit and participation. We really "fire up" with what members bring to the discussions, and we hope to see more of you.... Note that for any reason, should you desire to be removed from distribution of this "Weekly Missif", just drop us a line and we will comply with your wishes "poste- haste". 

Schedule of Upcoming Topics/Events***** 

Time: Every Thursday Night at 11pm ET in the Golden Gates Room with Hosts GFH Amy, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFS Jim and our many faithful friends :) 

12/23/99 - CHRISTMAS EVE plus One - Your hosts will be taking this day and adding it to Friday to spend with our families and we do so desire you to enjoy the same. We wish you all a very Merry Christmas. Make some more memories :D By the way the room will be open, it will just be "UnHosted".... But I wouldn't be surprised if one of us just might drop by....

12/30/99 - "The Perryville Story"..... The tale was written by GFS TEG and will be presented by GFS Jayne....

01/06/2000 - Can you believe it's 2000? Well we're going to leave this OPEN CHAT so you can bring your Questions and Answers and We'll "Collectively" Try to Answer them...........

01/13/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night.

01/20/2000 - OPEN CHAT

01/27/2000 - "Matson Slave Trial or How Lincoln Got His Outhouse" - provided by IllinoisCW. Frank has provided a great story which GFS Jayne will "read" to us .... Don't miss this one.

02/03/2000 - OPEN CHAT

02/10/2000 - It's our Monthly Special again; Letters, Songs and Poems night.

02/17/2000 - Wilson's Creek - A Treatise by Joan Rose 

02/24/2000 - OPEN CHAT

We'll See You Thursday Night..! 
Your Joyful, Intelligent and Fun-lovin' Host's/Hostess's :-)
GFS Jim, GFS Jayne, GFS TEG and GFH Amy

Hear Ye .... Hear Ye

"The Weekly Fireside"
of the American Civil War History
Special Interest Group;
Distribution Coast to Coast
Week ending 26 December 1999

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Well, it was quite a day on Christmas.  All the kids came down and brought all the grandbabies and we had quite a time together. We watched the little ones open their presents with their eyes all large and bright.  Then later in the day we all gathered around the big table in the kitchen for the turkey and dressing, and talked and laughed and we ate too much.  We thought about Dad who had passed on 3 years ago and how much he liked it when all the family was together.  Jessica, who is 5 now remembered a story about her great grandpa (Gramps) chasing her around the house and tickling her feet 'till she "hollared" and we laughed until we were sick, hearing that story come fro that little girl..... We miss Dad, but the memories are rich and full, and that's OK, because life goes on and the memories and the experience and wisdom of those that are no longer with us has left it's mark and we live with that in us and are better for it.  It's quiet in the house, and everybody has gone to bed and it's a good time to reflect and to smile.  There's nothing quite like it.  :-)

Heh, Heh-they even allowed "Grandpa" (that's me) to watch my new video "The Hunley."  I've put a story together as a result on 
"The Hunley" and we'll add that to the schedule next year for your enjoyment.  It was amazing that nobody had a clue that the Civil War had the first submarine out in Charleston Harbor, and that it actually sunk the USS Housatonic.

I do hope your Christmas Day was a good one for you .  Jayne, Amy, Tom and I thank you for allowing us to share the past year with you and we look forward to another great year with you next year.  To our friends and acquaintances in the active Military, we give you a heartfelt THANK YOU for keeping this country of our FREE and we wish you all the best.

The Music:  I've spent this past week listening to all those Christmas CDs I listed for you a couple of weeks ago and I also came across another Celtic artist that I have been enthralled with.  I bought a CD called "Celtic Women in Music & Song" a couple of weeks ago and I have just fell in love with it.  One lady in particular is Hiamh Parsons who was the vocalist in one piece called "The Clohinne Winds"  What a trip that song was.  I would get in the car and drive up to the ridge line at night where I could look out over the city lights and just listen. Oh, My!!!!

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Editor's Note:  For those of you who are AOL member, I want to encourage to to feel entirely free to post any Civil War letters, or Stories of articles that you have in our Civil War History Files.  There is also an area for you to upload photos, if you would desire to share those with the Civil War History community.  Use "keyword roots" to get to the Genealogy Main Screen.  Then select Files, followed by selecting History and Culture and there you will find the two upload areas I mentioned, Civil War Files, and Civil War Photos.  I would also note that the New Genealogy Forum Web Site is being constructed.  On that Web Site, the Civil War History SIG will have an area to link to our Civil War Library (Lectures, Letters, Songs, Poems, Files, Firesides, and Photos).  When this is complete then anyone (not just AOL Members) will have access to all our material.  We'll be sure to let you know when you can access it.

This coming Thursday GFS Jayne is going to tell you a story, that GFS TEG has written, it's called "The Perryville Story"....  Tom (GFS TEG) does such an incredible job developing these tales.  You will certainly want to catch this one.

We'll keep the a light on for you...  "<>"

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FOR ALL YOU 1ST TIMERS ON THURSDAY - "WE REALLY WELCOME YOU TO OUR MERRY BAND" WE ENJOYED HAVING YOU, TRADING QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND ESPECIALLY YOUR CAMARADERIE!!! :-)... COME AGAIN OFTEN, WE DO INDEED "RELISH" YOUR COMPANY.. 

For your information, every first-timer to the American Civil War History SIG gets put on the newsletter distribution automatically, because we like to send you a "Thank You Card" for coming to visit and this is our way of doing so. We do this to give you an opportunity to jump right in with us. If you desire NOT to receive the newsletter, then just drop us an email saying UNSUBSCRIBE and we will quickly remove your screen name from distribution. We certainly don't want to clog your mailbox with unwanted material. Also many of you pass on the newsletter to others that don't subscribe to AOL. We really want to thank you for spreading the word. I would also like to let you know that we would be happy to add them to our list if they have email of any sort. We distribute everywhere to those that have requested it. AOL membership is not a requirement although we'd love to see you in the Chat Room :D 

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THE HELP DESK
This segment is to address specific questions that hit our plate on Thursday night that we didn't have a chance to answer or needed a bit of time to check it out. Hope these answer the mail :D 

Editor's Note: Regimental Histories and Letters, etc. Postings: keyword "roots", after which will bring you to the main screen of the Genealogy Forum. Select the "Files Library Center", then "History Files". At that point select "Civil War Files. Lectures and the Letters, Songs and Poems evenings are also posted in the "Files Library Center" under "History Lectures" as the Lecture Subject. The "Firesides" when they eventually get there after their 30 days in the New Files section are posted in the "Files Library Center" under "Meeting Logs and Newsletters". 

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Andersonville lookupsFrom: frye@gnat.net (FRYE FAMILY)
Kevin Frye has offered his services for looking up Andersonville ancestors
http://www.corinthian.net/mccc/plookup.htm 
Kevin is now building a website around Andersonville that informs about the prison as well as his "lookup" offer above. The address is: http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html>

ED. NOTE: Please visit this website.. it is awesome.. 

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Weekly web sites we've received

From:  IrishInCal
    American Memory
        http://memory.loc.gov

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From GFS Jayne
    ....more Civil War Christmas Links.
            http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/2180/xmas.html 
    Poetry of the American Civil War. "Christmas Bells" by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
            http://acacia.pair.com/Acacia.Vignettes/Christmas.Bells.html 

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From JRose10700
    Always Safe:; Let Snow
            http:/www.always-safe.com/snow.html 

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......more Holiday Greetings.....

From Jowhara7
Happy New Year to four of the greatest hosts. Looking forward to another year with you all and your stories, poems and songs.
And Happy New Year to all the folks on the American Civil War History Chat and the Fireside gang!

From WJwork60
    Jim, Jayne, Tom and Amy and all of those wonderful people who gather together on Thursday nights. I wish to thank you for all of the wonderful stories, poems and helpful information you have given me this past year. Those Thursday nights whe I cannot make it I feel like I am missing very dear friends. You have been both funny and cheery at times and then when I have had problems with my families illnesses or my mothers death I have felt real concern and compassion
    So Thanks for being extra special people who have touched my life in many ways. I soon will have to buy stock in a computer supply store if I keep coping all the Newsletter. MY wish for you all is that you have a joyful year with many cousins located and many new friendships. And that the peace and love of God enfolds you.
Jane.

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MEMBERS HELPING MEMBERS!!..

Here's how it works.. If you are trying to get photographs of a gravesite or battlefield, to collect for your Civil War ancestor research and records, then send us a request and we will post it here... Other members seeing your request and being in the near vicinity, and are willing to assist can email you direct (this protects your privacy) and work out the details. We HIGHLY recommend the "Requester" pay for all film costs and any postage involved for a helping member. This is intended to be a "Free" assistance between members (with the exception of defraying film and postage costs). Do unto others as.... you know :-) Keep us posted on how this is working, so we can share them in the "Fireside"!! 
GFS Jim

IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANSWER(S) TO YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO LET US KNOW!!!!! 
Thanks!! - The Editors

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From: CW1865
My gr gr grandfather, Pvt. Adam Schneider, 183rd Ohio Infantry, died on the Sultana on April 17, 1865, while coming home from Confederate prison with over 2,000 other parolees. Shortly after, his family in Cincinnati was visited by a survivor of this disaster who was also his friend, Pvt. Michael Conrad, and Conrad told my gr gr grandmother what happened to her husband. I am looking for descendants of Conrad in the hopes that they can tell us Michael's version so what happened the night the Sultana went down.
Thanks so much! 
Pam Newhouse

{{{Pam}}} - I'm glad to hear from you. We'll be sure to put this in the newsletter and see what hits we get :D Anyone able to help Pam out, please respond to GFS Jim and CW1865. Ed. Note: for those that don't recognize Pam, she is the Editor and Publisher of a newsletter "The Sultana Remembered" published for descendants and interested persons. (The Sultana Descendants meet annually in Knoxville, TN on the date of the disaster - April 27, 1865)
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IllinoisCW is looking for someone living in or near Livingston County, NY. He's trying to locate a possible gravesite. If you think you might be able to help, e-mail IllinoisCW@aol.com for further details

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TEAPOT311 wants to know if there would be records at the National Archives if an ancestor was a "scout" for General Grant... Teapot311 does not know if ancestor was actually in the military. Any help out there????

From: MRB1330
Teapot, Check this page. I recently had a question about a pension that my ancestor received which was discontinued . The record gave a number to check as the reason. I contacted NA and was called by telephone the next day to verify the problem and to tell me how to get more records (the rest of the story) on my ancestor. Perhaps they can answer your question about the scout for Gen. Grant. Good luck,
Peggy http://www.nara.gov/research/
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From: hood@rica.net (Jan Hood) and passed to us from SusiCP
SIMON POLK enlisted in the Confederate Army on 16 April 1862 at Rudes Hill, New
Market, VA. He went in as a Private. He was assigned to the 2nd VA Infantry,
Company F, Winchester Rifles. This Company and Infantry rode with Stonewall
Jackson throughout the war and was part of "Stonewall's Brigade." SIMON POLK
was listed as 'sick' in September 1862, and in a hospital at Bunker Hill, West
Va. He was later moved to a hospital in Martinsburg , W. Va., where he died on
11 October 1862. The hospital is not named.
I would appreciate anyone who may be able to help me, with any lookup or
advice.
Thank you VERY much.
Jan in Shenandoah Co., Va.

"Jan" - we're glad your "plea" was passed on to us. We'll put this to the membership who many dedicated and expert researchers in all aspects of the Civil War and see what we can find..... :-) Hey Faithful!.... What say ye??
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A BIT OF COMMUNITY...

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From: Jowhara7
The Touch

"If I Could Catch a Rainbow"

If I could catch a Rainbow
I would do it just for you,
And share with you it's beauty
On the days you're feeling blue...

If I could build a mountain
You could call your very own,
A place to find serenity
A place to be alone...

If I could take your troubles
I would toss them in the sea,
But all these things I'm finding
are impossible for me.

I cannot build a mountain
Or catch a rainbow fair...
But let me be what I know best
A friend that's always there!

        Author unknown
    I found this at the health care facility that I worked at last night. I thought it very appropriate for the season.
    Love to all,
    Jacque and her hounds.

(((Jacque)))   Thank you for the poem.  It's special  :-)

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From BadBeth666

A Heavy Calorie Christmas

    T'was the month after Christmas, and all through the house
Nothing would fit me, not even a blouse.
    The cookies I'd nibbles, the eggnog I'd taste
At the holiday parties had gone to my waist.
    When I got on the scales there arose such a nuber!
When I walked to the store (less a walk than a lumber).
    I'd remember the marvelous meals I'd prepared;
The gravies and sauces and beef nicely rared,
    The cakes and the pies, the bread and the cheese
And the way I'd never said, "No thank you, please."
    As I dressed myself in my husband's old shirt
An prepared once again to do battle with dirt
    I said to myself as I only can-
"You can't spend a winter disguised as a man!"
    So, away with the last of the sour cream dip,
Get rid of the fruit cake, every cracker and chip
    Every last bit of food that I like must be banished
Till all the additional ounces have vanished.
    I won't have a cookie, not even a lick.
I'll only chew on a long celery stick.
    I won't have hot biscuits, or corn bread, or pie,
I'll munch on a carrot and quietly cry.
    I'm hungry. I'm lonesome, and life is a bore...
But isn't that what January is for?
    Unable to giggle no longer a riot.
Happy New Year to all and to all a good diet!

((((Beth)))) - this one is too close to home  :D

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Subj:  Library of Congress Civil War Map Collection
From: DeesRoots
Hi all,
    I thought I would share this site with you on the Civil War Map Collection from the Library of Congress. I thought it was an especially nice site.
Civil War Maps Collection
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/cwmhtml/
    If you have not heard, Ancestry.com is offering many free records for the holidays until January 4th.
Ancestry.com - Happy Holidays
http://www.ancestry.com/home/celebrate/holidays.htm
    Just click on the link for Guest Registry and fill out a guest registration form to receive a user password. There are military records available there as well as a wealth of other records from numerous databases.
    Have a very Happy New Year in the new Millennium!
Dee

((((Dee))) - thanks for the sites...

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From: ; FI WATROUS
    Can anyone help this fellow?

Subj  Re:  [NYALBANY] Civil War/34th NY Infantry Reft.
From: Trimmerrw@aol.com
    Anyone familiar with the 34th NY, sometimes called the Herkimer Regt., but had many from Albany including my great-great-grandfather and brother?  Lt. Louis Chapin of Albany wrote the regimental history in 1903.

"Ike"-we'll put this in the newsletter and see what hits.....

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From:  AJWRJW

MORRIS ISLAND PROJECT PROPOSED   
    A developer proposes to build 44 houses on a barrier island at the entrance to Charleston Harbor and from where the first shots of the Civil War was fired. 
    At a meeting tonight, Charlotte developer Gary Allen will ask the city of Folly Beach to approve construction of a housing community at Cummings Point at the tip of Morris Island.
    Allen, who has on option to buy Cummings Point, plans to build 44 houses, a swimming pool, bathhouse, and a helicopter landing pad on about 30-35 acres on the island, accessible only by boat.
    Homeowners would be ferried to a dock at the barren, windswept island, famous as the site of the all-black, windswept island, famous as the site of the all-black 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment's suicidal charge of Battery Wagner during the Civil War.
    As word of the proposed development spread, opponents began lining up.
    The National Park Service opposes the housing development, which could be seen from nearby Fort Sumter, said park service Superintendent John Tucker.
    "It could have an adverse effect on the park and visitation," he said.
    Mount Pleasant attorney Cotton Harness, who represents Allen said the planned Cummings Point development is sensitive to the environment.  It includes the conservation of 12 acres of land at the tip of Cummings Point, he said.
    To protect water quality, water and sewer systems will be contained to the development and roads will not be paved, Harness said residents will use a golf card to get from a dock to their homes, he said.
    "This is more (environmentally) sensitive than Dewees Island" Harness said of the development of the barrier island off the Isle of Palms. "And if this property is to be developed, this is the right way to do it."
    The public still gets access to the beach at Morris Island, Harness said. Developers are also considering placing a monument at the site to commemorate the Island's history, he said.
    Due to erosion, evidence of the island's history washed into the sea long ago.
    No evidence remains of Battery Wagner or Civil War encampments, Harness said, "This part of the island, to our knowledge, has no archaeological value," he said.
    Still, developers offered $500,000 to a group raising money to preserve the Morris Island Lighthouse at the opposite end of Morris Island. The lighthouse owners have not accepted, concerned that it may seem their good will is being bought, Harness said.
    Charleston County zoning laws allow construction of one house per 25 acres on Morris Island. Annexing into Folly Beach will accommodate the higher density development, Harness said.
    Harness said he hopes to have annexation complete and state environmental permits in hand by August
    He had predicted staunch opposition to the development of Cummings Point. He was right.
    "It would be a disaster," said Johnny Ohlandt, who owns a neighboring undeveloped island. "I love that island. I love that place. It's one of the last unspoiled areas and has such historic significance."
    Morris Island was the site of the Union's attack on Battery Wagner on July 18,1863. The charge by the all-black 54th Mass., led by Col. Robert Shaw, was portrayed in the movie "Glory."
    The first shots of the Civil War were fired from Morris Island, according to the Encyclopedia of South Carolina. One Jan. 9 1861, Gov. Francis W. Pickens authorized South Carolina troops on Morris Island to fire upon the Star of the WEst as it attempted to relieve the Federal Army garrison at Fort Sumter.
    "Can you picture people standing on Ft. Sumter and looking at a subdivision and being told that's where the war started?" said Ohlandt.
    Dana Beach, director of the S.C. Coastal Conservation League, said development of Morris Island is inappropriate given the rate of erosion and its instability
    "If you had to pick a worse place, politically, to develop in Charleston you would be hard pressed to pick a worse spot," Beach said.
    Cummings Point is eroding at about 6 feet each year, according to the S.C. Office of Ocean and Coastal Resource Management.
    "It's slightly erosional, but nothing serious." Harness said Homeowners would be privately insure, he said
    Over the years, several developers have eyed construction of home or condominiums on Morris Island. In every case, plans fell through before developers sought regulatory approval.
    Allen, of Southeastern Land Sales, has developed several large residential projects across the Southeast, Harness said. Southeastern Land Sales has an option to buy Cummings Point with Henry Yaschik of Charleston
    The homes would sell for $1.2 million to $2 million, and the development would make the total land value worth approximately $81.8 million, according to the development proposal.
    The development would generate $360,856 in taxes per year for the city of Folly Beach
    The option is a subject to Southeastern Land Sales obtaining zoning and environmental permits, Harkness said.
    The Yaschik property represents virtually all of the high land on Morris Island. The rest consists of a narrow beach and a 713-acre State Ports Authority dredge disposal site.

    That was in yesterday's paper.  This is the article that appeared in today's.

Folly Council backs Morris Island  
    by Arlie Porter of the Post and Courier staff
    Folly Beach City Council approved the development of Morris Island on Tues, over the objections of historians and environmentalists.
    Developers want to build 44 homes on the undeveloped barrier island at the mouth of Charleston Harbor and have asked Folly Beach to annex their property to allow the development to proceed.
    Council members voted 5 - 2 for the annexation, and then 6-1 for the development plan, following a presentation from developers and more opposition than support.
    Two council members who voted for the annexation said they were doing so ony get more public opinion before the another public hearing and vote scheduled for Jan. 11.
    Council members applauded developers, Southeastern Land Sales of Charlotte, NC for the environmental sensitivity of their plan to build 44 houses on about 35 acres of high land.
    Cotton Harness spokesman for Southeastern, said that at least 12 acres of forested land is being set aside for conservation on the island, accessible only by boat.
He also said the Cummings Point development will have its own fir and police services and wouldn't count on the city unless an emergency arises.
Council members raised questions about where island residents would leave by boat to get to Morris Island Harness said that's still being studied, but that residents will be encouraged to rent marina slips in the area.
In response to questions, he also noted that residents would get around the island with a golf cart, and their boats would be pulled to their homes by a tractor.
    About 15 James Island and Folly Beach residents pleaded with council to reject the development and annexation. Morris Island played a key role in the Civil War due to its strategic location at the entrance to Charleston Harbor. The first shots of the war were said to have been fired from Morris Island on a Union Ship attempting to supply federal troops at Fort Sumter.
    Morris Island is also the site of the suicidal charge of the all-black 54th Massachusetts Regiment against Battery Wagner memorialized in the movie Glory. "Ninety five percent of what was there during the Civil War is gone. But regardless of that, this is hallowed ground. This is where many troops have fallen." said Dana MacBean, spokesman for the S.C. Battleground Preservation Trust.
    Rod Welch, a James Island resident, chided City Council for allowing developers to develop the property. Currently, Cummings Point is in the county, which allows development of only one house per 25 acres there
    Developers can't make a profit with development restricted to that density, and that's why they want the city to annex them at the higher-density zoning, Welch said.
    "It's a treasure in this area and God knows, we've lost enough treasures in the last five years," Welch said.
    Harness said developers will probably make a significant profit. Ideally, the island would not be developed, but it is private land, and neither the federal nor the state government has expressed interest in buying it, he said.
    Harness also noted that developers are proposing to contribute $360,000 to the city annually. That money represents about one-third of the city's revenues from property taxes and could be used to offset city taxes, Mayor Vernon Knox said after the meeting. The money appears to be the only benefit of the annexation and development to Folly Beach, Knox said, adding that his vote in favor of the development is firm.
    Voting against the project were council members Harvey Wittschen and Gered Lennon, who is a longtime critic of development on highly erosional islands such as Morris Island.
    Voting for the development and annexation were Knox, and council members Jane Theiling, Wallace Benson, Caroline Rhodes and Bill Klauber.  Rhodes and Klauber said they only voted for it to get more public comment before and at the Jan. 11 public hearing.
    Want to go? A second public hearin gand vote on the annexation will be held on Jan. 11 at Folly Beach City Hall.

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    I've been to Morris Island twice, have walked the length of that island and felt honored to have been able to be there. I can't understand, given the island's unstable coast line, why anyone would even contemplate building there But, I'm not a developer and it appears that these people have only one thing in mind... money.
    I don't know if there is anything that can be done to prevent this, but I'm going to start digging through my papers to see what I can find that is of historical significance. If they get Cummings Point that's their go-ahead to start digging through my papers to see what I can find that is of historical significance.  If they get Cummings Point, that's their go-ahead to build on the rest of the island and would rather die than see that happen.
    Thanks for you time.
        Kathy Dhalle

 

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